Hails bro! I know you
just got back from the Milwaukee Metalfest. First off, how did you get down
there and how was it?
Flying, it was pure hell
flying and shit, but it was worth it once you get the in the streets of
Milwaukee. It was fucking brutal, man! I mean, every time you turned
your head and looked there was a harsh metalhead somebody with a wicked shirt
and every time you turned around it’s this guy is in a metal band and this
guy does that ‘zine, so everywhere you looked there was somebody into the
underground, it was fucking wild. That and I got to hang out with Maniac
from Mayhem and Will from Mortician, a guy from Blood Moon or Dark Moon it
was the guy who formed the band out of Demonic Christ after Dana Duffy left,
that guy was cool.
I know like myself
you’re a headbanger (literally) live, so after seeing that many bands did
you have whiplash!?
No I’m immune to that.
Actually, I had whiplash the week before going to see Morbid Angel &
Incantation. I saw them two nights in a row - I saw them in Calgary and then
drove back and saw them in Edmonton. It was pretty cool! So, all of my
whiplash was from those two nights in a row and it got my neck pretty strong
Tell me the band that
was most impressive at Metalfest and most disappointing?
Most impressive is a
toss up between Mayhem and Mercyful Fate, both Maniac and King Diamond are
performance men! They totally held the crowd fucking great is all I can
say. Most disappointing probably I would say Emperor or Destruction a
combination of the two cause Ishahn’s vocals sucked they had technical
difficulties and I don’t know they just weren’t freaking out like I figured
they would be. I’ve seen old pictures and they were just freaking out. And
Destruction – well, they had some goofball doing vocals and he just killed
the vibe of old Destruction. I walked off and went back to my hotel to drink
beer ha ha.
We both attended the
Morbid Angel/Incantation show, so what did you think?
Incantation is unfucking
real! I mean, John McEntee is just a fucking nutcase. Tom, who he recruited
from Morpheus Descends, definitely filled in his shoes being session members
and all. That and hanging with them, John is cool and Tom is so old school
metal I mean he’s got a resume of fucking death metal, black metal that
could kick anyone’s ass!.
Incantation got lost
following us (myself and Sabazios in my car) after the show cause they were going
to stay at your place but they got lost, did they ever show up and how did
They got my phone number
so they called me in the morning what they did was just slept at a truck
stop in their van. They came to my place cause they needed to train Paulus
from Sacramentary Abolishment to play drums for one Incantation show in
Vancouver (B.C.) which I guess went over quite well but it was great
listening to Incantation jamming in my house for 8 hours straight, it was
cool you would hear “Entrantment Of Evil” 10 times in a row!.
Tell us about the
origins of Lust?
The origins go back, the
dream of Lust went back to about May of ’93 but nothing actually happened
until about September (’93) when we got a drummer which is Inferno. Lust was
originally formed by myself and Genocide Lord on guitar. We wrote two songs
in September/ October of ’93. We wrote “Churchyard Necromancy” & “Autumn
Thorns”. And, then, we just had a lot of financial problems with keeping our
rehearsal space; and, also too I didn’t have my own instruments. I was
always borrowing equipment from people. It got really bad, and a few times me
and Genocide Lord would try reforming Lust taking cracks at different
instruments, but it just never worked until about May of ’97. We sat over
many beers and figured “Churchyard Necromancy” & “Autumn Thorns” were too
good of songs to let go to waste, so, thought we would recruit back Inferno.
And, I had eventually made lots of money busting my ass as a red neck, you
know joe worker kinda guy and finally got enough equipment that we could do
all of this shit in my house. (Then) we did the 1997 demo which is 1993
songs though and it fuckin’ rules. I mean, I’ve been getting response so
good I didn’t think even think would happen. I am really happy with the way
the underground is thinking of Lust. So hail to the underground!.
What fuels you to make
this old school chaotic death craziness?
Old school? I don’t
know. I can’t say retro, cause all of the members have always listened to
old shit (It is true Inferno was once present at ancient rehearsals by
Soothsayer and was present during the filming of Voivod’s “Ripping Headache”
video!!). I’ve also listened to shit like Kreator, old Sepultura, Hellhammer
or even say Possessed or old Death. Plus, newer shit like Order From Chaos,
Bestial Warlust. And Genocide Lord is totally old school. He likes shit like
Iron Maiden, Motorhead & Inferno is totally into Venom, Motorhead, Sodom,
Voivod, you know.
What inspires you to
write Lust material outside of musical influences, you know stuff like
storms, dark atmospheres and such?
Well, actually a lot of
the new Lust songs were written about ’95 or ’96 for my other project which
was going to called Nefosis Diadima (hope I spelt that right? -Dale); but
this project never went through. I was supposed to do all of the instruments
myself, but it’s just too much of a challenge. So, I took all of the guitar
and showed it to Inferno. We decided this is going to be the new Lust
material and it is even brutal, more chaotic, more technical, more sick,
more disgusting, more evil.
What is it that you do
truly lust for!?
Lust? uh sluts, whores,
blood, war, destruction, pain, darkness. Anything the normal quote idiot
would despise or fear. You know! We’re just about hatred, pain and
You are heavily into the
underground scene, what does it mean to you?
obviously there are a lot of good bands and there is a lot of crap you have
to watch out for, but I mean I’m not going to waste my time mentioning crap
bands. There is a lot of wicked bands like in France and Poland there seems
to be a huge movement of national socialistic black metal bands that are
extremely aggressive and brutal but their music is really breath-taking and
it’s inspiring. It’s brutal, but it’s still original . Bands like Osculum
Infame and their side project called Arkon Infaustus which is like totally brilliant. Also,
bands out of Poland/Germany like War 88 and Graveland is a all- time
favorite of mine.
You once had plans to
release a ‘zine what was the name going to be and what interviews did you do
Originally the ‘zine was
started by the original bass player of Sacramentary Abolishment, and it was
going to have a faggot, stupid name Exhumed Bag Of Rotten (that’s pretty
funny -Dale). I took over and we were going to change it to Eternal
Depression mag but interviews in it were with Tumult (Can), Graveland (not
that anyone cares but my fave release from these Polish fuckers is their ’93
demo “In The Glare Of Burning Churches” -Dale), Order From Chaos (American
gods! -Dale), Thergothon, Abigail, Inshrine and a few others plus a bunch demo and LP reviews. But it
never had gone through due to money.
I know like myself you
are a vinyl collector. What are some of your prize vinyls?
Well I just picked up at
Metalfest Nuclear Death(USA) “Bride Of Insect” I haven’t had a chance (yet)
but I’m going to jerk-off and vomit on it I mean it’s just a wicked album!.
Some other cool vinyls I have got would probably be my Bulldozer “Day Of
You don’t have that on
Yes I do! Hahaha It
would take quite a few unholy concubines to suck me off before I would
depart with that most evil record!. A couple of other cool vinyls like
Mercyful Fate “Don’t Break The Oath”, Death “Leprosy” on vinyl and really
too many to mention.
What bands inspire and
influence Lust past and present?
Oh fuck! I go could
go…well some of the big ones are Mercyful Fate, Destruction, Autopsy (hell
yeah!! -Dale), Incantation, Nuclear Death, Voivod, Slayer, Motorhead, and I
could keep going you know Sodom, and a lot of Australian old stuff like
Slaughterlord (“Taste The Blood”!!! -Dale), Sadistik Exekution plus a lot
Brazilian stuff like Sarcofago and old Sepultura . That’s the main stuff and
then there is tons of other shit that we totally dig and kind of get ideas
I hear some Necrovore
and old Sarcofago influence in your music. Do you agree?
Gee thanks that’s quite
a compliment!. I mean Sarcofago they are a godly band but newer stuff will
be less like the old stuff maybe more like the “Rotting” era cause they were
more technical on that album. But, yeah, we got that totally sick and
disgusting kind of harsh recorded inside a basement feel yeah. But yeah
Necrovore they are total gods. Inferno loves that band a lot. But Necrovore
is reforming (I had heard those rumours, holy shit!! -Dale) I met one of the
members (at the Metalfest), they will also have an addition of one of the
members of Thornspawn is joining. I will have to wait to see that because it
will definitely rip my brains out!.
Lusts vocals are some of
the most original that I have heard for a while and they sound like you are
torturing some poor soul that you have summoned and it is crying out, tell
me about them?
Fuckin’ I don’t know. I
just let out whatever comes outta my lungs, whether it’s a high pitches
squeal, a groan or a yell. I mean, it’s just pure pain because it’s just
because for the last 22 years that is what my life has been, it’s just been
pure agony. For Inferno, the last 27 years has just been hatred so he’s got
more of that war cry. It just sounds like throat cancer for Inferno’s
I have been present in
your blasphemous dwelling and viewed your ultra sick horror movie-ish
basement/dungeon. Tell us about it and am I right saying it must be a great
atmosphere to rehearse in?
It’s beyond fucking
great! I mean it stinks, it smells, it’s damp and moist, it’s super dark and
lots of chains, lots of barbwire, rotting wood and moldy concrete. It’s just
a really grim total setting, yeah it is a total dungeon like something out
of a Hellraiser movie or just something that time has forgotten and three
sick individuals are making the most brutal noise in that little dwelling.
I have heard a few
people from your area when I bring up Lusts name that say you are too
extreme and crazy for them to handle, why do you think that is?
That’s just because they
can’t take real black metal, they are just so used to this garbage like
Dimmu Borgir just stuff they can buy at the local record store and they are
not used to hearing what death metal is supposed to sound like so they
cringe at it. But I think Lust is not crazy at all it has been done before,
say like when you say you have heard old Necorvore before or say
Martire or Bestial Warlust I mean that is sick if not
sicker I mean some of these people have no comprehension as to what evil is
supposed to be.
You recorded the Lust
demo down in your basement, what kind of recording equipment do you have
Well the Lust demo is
actually recorded was recorded in my old house in the attic (I stand
corrected -Dale) so the attic was more like a old King Diamond feeling like
“Fatal Portrait” and “Them”, you know up in the attic with just this totally
evil presence. But we used a Fostechs 4 track and a Hill 16 channel board
and various pieces of shit microphones of shitty quality that I cannot even
remember. For drums it was Tama and then for guitar amps we were using
Softech and Marshall and the bass amp was Samic and tons of distortion
I think the dirty sound
on the tape does nothing but enhance the music and give it a very cult feel,
do you agree and what are your comments on the sound of that tape?
In some parts it kind of
hurts it cause you can’t hear the riff in certain parts but other parts it
just rips your fucking brains out. But that really dark sound with all of
reverb on the vocals and distortion on the guitar and even with muddy sound
on the drums due to the poor microphones it gives it a feeling like it was
recorded in a grave or a dirty pit of some sort. Kind of like the same place
I slept at when I was at Metalfest, but that’s another story.
Will you record the next
release in the same fashion with the same equipment?
A little bit better
equipment I have an Alesis (16 track) A.D.A.T. now and I’m going to be using
the same mixing board probably better microphones but yeah same brutal
distortion pedals and guitar amps. Different drum kit it is Tama but these
sound even more terrible than my drums, Inferno is a mad man it sounds like
he is banging on cardboard boxes and smashing glass he he.
Where were the tapes
dupped for the ’97 demo and how many did you make up?
The tapes were
duplicated by Storm (ex-Faceplant record store) / Catharsis records which is my
good friend Troy. We haven’t finished duplicating but we are only going to
do 300, and I have about 180 out now and I have not put out a single flyer
which I am totally proud of, hail to the underground.
Do you encourage trading
with other bands and/or ‘zines?
Yeah basically that’s
all the people I have given to is bands or ‘zines and maybe a few small
distros. Basically, like I said, I haven’t put out any flyers so I haven’t
had anyone sucking my cock for a demo. Mostly I’ve just been writing to the
grimmest people in the underground trading Lust demos with them. All I can
say if you are totally grim and into harsh metal write me and we can trade
Tell me about the
Edmonton scene and your opinion of it?
Um, everyone whines and
says it is terrible but I think it is fucking wicked (I couldn’t agree more,
I don’t think they appreciate what they’ve got! -Dale). I mean great bands
have come out of Edmonton such as Disciples Of Power (Gods! -Dale), Domini
Inferi, Cremation, Cudgel, even the members of Conqueror have come out of
Edmonton I mean even old Malignant Growth that was great at one time to,
Sacramentary Abolishment and a band that is unknown and only recorded a tape
in my friend’s basement was Pogrom (not to be confused with Pogrom from
Poland -Dale) and these guys were true sick alcoholics and it’s brutal
thrash metal at that.
Who are some of the
bands and people around your area that you respect, though I guess this
might be a repeat of what you just answered?
Yeah like Sacramentary
Abolishment I hang out with Verminaard and Paulus and we are like war
brothers for sure. The boys in Pogrom I don’t drink with anymore but they
are total metalheads for sure and Disciples Of Power sure they are old men
but I mean they are still headbangers and I’ve got a lot of respect these
Do you feel as I that
Troy from Catharsis records/Area 51 has really helped the scene out the last
couple years around here?
He has helped a lot, he
has never made it commercial or anything like that but he has been honest
about it. I mean he’s losing money because of black metal but he doesn’t
give a rats ass I mean hail to Troy he is a true warrior!. Now he’s setting
the Infernal Majesty show and after that the Cannibal Corpse/Angel Corpse
tour as well (as fate would have it Lust opened up that great double Corpse
bill and it was the last live show I witnessed on Canadian soil - Dale).
Lust is said to make
it’s live debut soon, when and with who will what be with and what can we
expect from Lust live?
There’s the Cannibal
Corpse/Angel Corpse tour coming through and we will be opening up along with
Dead Jesus which is another local band. It’s supposed to be a really huge
show I mean this is fucking crazy. It’s a thousand seat capacity, and I
never thought Lust would something this fucking huge and it’s like a real
kick in the nuts!. I don’t know if we will be able to do any fire blowing,
but for sure I’ll have to bring some razor blades and chop myself up and
bleed, maybe even vomit on the front row of the crowd.
Hahah …You have another
band starting up Ouroboros right?
That’s um with 2 other
members, this band I play drums for. It’s not as brutal as Lust but it’s
still brutal, a little more melodic. Still extremely aggressive it’s just
not the baseball bat to the teeth that Lust is. A lot more death metal
influenced but that’s probably due to the age of the members, they are a lot
younger than the Lust members so their influence is a lot more of the late
‘80’s early ‘90’s death metal where as with Lust we have a lot more early
‘80’s deathrash and early ‘90’s black metal influence.
When either band should
play live would they possibly borrow members from the other?
No. I want to each band
as separate as possible. For Ouroboros we are looking for a full-time bass
player, that’s becoming an eternal struggle. We keep getting promised by so
many individuals that they will play bass for us and they all seem to
cop-out and I grow tired of this it is this pathetic game.
What are some of your
fave ‘zines/novels and movies?
‘Zines well ages and
ages ago there was a mag out of Finland called Hammer Of Damnation (I
remember seeing flyers for that - Dale). That was a great magazine, and the
editor did vocals for the cult band Thergothon! Another ‘zine I totally
loved was Slayer out of Norway that was great too. Novels I don’t really
read fiction but some stuff I enjoyed was Paradise Lost by Milton and a lot
stuff on World War II. Movies? I would have to say for the band the whole
Mad Max trilogy cause that is pure cult and that is pure Armageddon.
What bands have you been
listening to as of late?
Well right now Martire
that Australian band and the new Nifelheim album which is pretty brutal. But
I stick mostly listening to King Diamond, Mercyful Fate and Autopsy that’s
kind of what curses my CD player the most and Order From Chaos.
You have a distribution
called Death Cult, what prompted you to start it and what music/literature
will you be selling?
I mean stuff that’s
really sick in the vein of Lust will be distributed by Death Cult. All it
was really was I was doing a lot of trading with other bands and I thought
wow this demo is really good and that demo is really good. Death Cult was
originally going to be the name of my recording studio but what happened was
just doing trades that this stuff definitely needs distribution and I can
decided that I would help these people out and what it really is is a great
burden to my wallet. I still support bands such as Krieg and Centuries
Of Deception, Osculum Infame and other bands I distribute stuff for.
Do you mostly do trades
or will you do consignment or buy stuff straight out?
I had to buy all of my
krieg CD’s outright from Blood Fire Death records which is Dark Symphonies
records but I prefer to trade even my distro. I really haven’t sold any CD’s
outright just traded with people, people giving me demos or even I trade
CD’s for a couple of beers cause alcohol is extremely important to me.
What is Lusts new
material sounding like?
All I can say is your up
for a good surprise the old demo sounds pretty weak compared to the new
stuff. Most of the new songs (we have now) have been written for awhile but
all of the drum tracks have been written in the last 2-4 months but the
lyrics are new they have been all written in the last year to 2 years I’ve
just been kinda piecing them together. I haven’t written too much on guitar
(lately) but I have written some guitar for my other band, Ouroboros, cause
it just seems to fit the personality of the band more. But with the addition
of Genocide Lord back to the band he will be writing and he’s got a real
strange feel to his writing, if you can imagine a more brutal satanic
version of Judas Priest and Kiss mixed together. Really dirty sadistic rock
riffs but really brutal sounding.
Are there any sets plans
for a new Lust release and what form will it take?
Well we were going to do
another demo and maybe a split 7” but now there is talk of just doing a MCD,
because we got contact from someone who can burn a master CD for us because
we are all fucking broke and victims of poverty and we can’t afford to go
into a nice studio and record a top 40 death metal album so we’ll just keep
doing the underground shit until we become rock stars. HAHAHAHA . I don’t
think that will happen with Lust we will just be living in my dungeon
smelling mold and decay will we jam and drink beer from rusty cans and eat
Tell us about the
lyrical content on your demo?
is about grave magic and “Autumn Thorns” is about being buried in a
battlefield under a old thorn patch and stuff growing over you. It’s really
painful, grim, dark lyrics I wrote back in ’93 but they still fit the band
now. The new lyrics are a combination of stuff referring to Paradise Lost
and referring to nuclear war and some really bizarre stories Inferno is into
but that will all be a surprise when it comes out.
What do you think of
this whole retro revival right now?
All I can say is the
‘80’s kicked ass but fuckin’ all of you stupid faggots get over it. It’s
getting close to a new millennium and everyone should start writing music
for a new millennium. I mean that is that way I want Lust to be a band of
the year 2000 and not a band of the ‘80’s. I mean as great as the ‘80’s were
there’s good bands in the ‘90’s but they can all fuck off it’s time to do
something more brutal and something more evil.
What is your opinion on
the underground as it stands today?
A lot of it is a bunch
of little kids whining where as the real people in the underground we all
know who each other are and they are true metalheads and I mean whatever I’m
not going to send out flyers or in magazine interviews bashing bands because
if a band sucks they will fade away just like every other shitty band and
the good bands will become cult. Just as the underground gods Order From
Chaos they will never be forgotten and they are cult now and same with old
Morbid(Swe), Necrovore or Slaughterlord these bands will never be forgotten
they don’t need cheesy hype or gay gimmicks and publicity to become real
Last comments to
Canadian Assault readers?
All I can say is stay
metal and drink lots of beer and if you don’t have a Lust demo get it and
maybe you might enjoy it and if not there’s tons of other quality
black/death bands that will really rip your head off and you gotta look for
those bands cause they definitely need the support as much if not more than
I do. But thank you Dale and STAY METAL!!.
Thanks & hails to Sabazios my metal brother on high!!!.